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No Mary.....No Salvation!
by fredms3 Fri Aug 06, 2010 5:07 pm
From the old BARM...dinala ko na rin dito. 
Let's have a brotherly talks here. Thanks
Let's have a brotherly talks here. Thanks
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Re: No Mary.....No Salvation!
by Comb@tron Fri Aug 06, 2010 5:58 pm
^^ hayss tapos na yan eh. fred kung gustu mu pa edi ok haha
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Re: No Mary.....No Salvation!
by Comb@tron Fri Aug 06, 2010 6:01 pm
no mary no salvation?
hellow namatay ba sya para tubusin ang kasalanan ng lahat ng maniniwala sa kanya?
nabuhay ba sya after 3 days?
hellow malaking insulto sa DIYOS yan sa sinasabi mong No Mary.....No Salvation!
hellow namatay ba sya para tubusin ang kasalanan ng lahat ng maniniwala sa kanya?
nabuhay ba sya after 3 days?
hellow malaking insulto sa DIYOS yan sa sinasabi mong No Mary.....No Salvation!
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Re: No Mary.....No Salvation!
by fredms3 Fri Aug 06, 2010 6:37 pm
Comb@tron wrote:^^ hayss tapos na yan eh. fred kung gustu mu pa edi ok haha
So naniniwala ka na sa thread topic kung ganun?
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Re: No Mary.....No Salvation!
by miss_terry Fri Aug 06, 2010 9:55 pm
Ayan po ba ang stand ng mga katoliks?
Kaya you treat mary as in ka-level ni God?
Kaya you treat mary as in ka-level ni God?
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Re: No Mary.....No Salvation!
by adanedhel Sat Aug 07, 2010 6:56 am
Hindi yun ka-level sis, special treatment yun. Kagaya natin pag mga ina natin talagang binibigyan natin ng special treatment.
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Re: No Mary.....No Salvation!
by Dhugz Sat Aug 07, 2010 8:54 am
miss_terry wrote:Ayan po ba ang stand ng mga katoliks?
Kaya you treat mary as in ka-level ni God?
No di namin itinuturing si Mary as a god.
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Re: No Mary.....No Salvation!
by Mojako Sat Aug 07, 2010 9:07 am
No di namin itinuturing si Mary as a god.
Bakit sabi nyo pagnag-dadasal kayo "Oh Mary mother of god pray for our sinners" kung si Mama Mary sinsabi nyong ina sya ng Dios e di lumalabas dios din sya ina kamo ng dios eh.... eh di pinapaging dios nyo si Mary, imagine saan nyo nabasa sa Bibliya na si Mary eh ina ng Dios eh di ba wala lumalabas ginagawa nyo lang syang dios, tao lang si Mary kinasangkapan lang sya ng Dios sa panganganak sa katawang lupa ni Jesus Christ....
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Re: No Mary.....No Salvation!
by adanedhel Sun Aug 08, 2010 12:14 am
"I am amazed that there are some who are entirely in doubt as to whether the holy Virgin should be called Theotokos or not. For if our Lord Jesus Christ is God, how is the holy Virgin who gave [Him] birth, not [Theotokos]?"
-Cyril of Alexandria
(Epistle 1, to the monks of Egypt; PG 77:13B).
Dyan tayo magkakasalungat Bro Mojako. Sinasabi mo kasi na ang katawang lupa lang ni Jesus ang ipinanganak ni Maria. Yan ang heresy na tinatawag na "Nestorianism" noong 5th century AD. Matagal nang kinondena ito ng Simbahang Katoliko sa Council of Ephesus noong 431 AD. Alam mo kung bakit? Dahil ina-attempt ni Nestorius na ihiwalay ang dalawang nature ng Panginoong Jesu-Cristo; human and divine. Sinabi ni Nestorius ang human nature lang ni Jesus ang ipinanganak ni Maria, at hindi ang divine nature ni Jesus. Kung sasakyan natin ang idea ni Nestorius, para bang dina-drama lang o parang show lang ang plano ng Dios sa kaligtasan ng tao, na hindi talaga Niya ini-experience ang kung paano maging tao at makihalo sa atin. Biruin mo iiwanan pala ni Jesus ang pagiging divine niya at pure tao lang Siya noong nabubuhay pa siya sa mundo! Ibig sabihin hindi din pala human and divine in perfect union yung nagpakamatay sa krus kundi pure human lang! Pambihira!
-Cyril of Alexandria
(Epistle 1, to the monks of Egypt; PG 77:13B).
Dyan tayo magkakasalungat Bro Mojako. Sinasabi mo kasi na ang katawang lupa lang ni Jesus ang ipinanganak ni Maria. Yan ang heresy na tinatawag na "Nestorianism" noong 5th century AD. Matagal nang kinondena ito ng Simbahang Katoliko sa Council of Ephesus noong 431 AD. Alam mo kung bakit? Dahil ina-attempt ni Nestorius na ihiwalay ang dalawang nature ng Panginoong Jesu-Cristo; human and divine. Sinabi ni Nestorius ang human nature lang ni Jesus ang ipinanganak ni Maria, at hindi ang divine nature ni Jesus. Kung sasakyan natin ang idea ni Nestorius, para bang dina-drama lang o parang show lang ang plano ng Dios sa kaligtasan ng tao, na hindi talaga Niya ini-experience ang kung paano maging tao at makihalo sa atin. Biruin mo iiwanan pala ni Jesus ang pagiging divine niya at pure tao lang Siya noong nabubuhay pa siya sa mundo! Ibig sabihin hindi din pala human and divine in perfect union yung nagpakamatay sa krus kundi pure human lang! Pambihira!
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Re: No Mary.....No Salvation!
by miss_terry Sun Aug 08, 2010 12:40 am
While Christians admit Mary's uniqueness, the Catholic church has, in
its own words, "clarified her position and nature through Sacred
Tradition." Through the centuries, more and more doctrines concerning
her have been revealed. For example:
1. Mary is called the Mother of God. - AD 431
2. Prayers offered to Mary - AD 600
3. Immaculate Conception (that she was sinless) - AD 1854
4. Assumption of Mary - AD 1950
5. Mary Proclaimed Mother of the Church - AD 1965
- carm.org/mary
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Parang nag-eevolve yung role ni Mary ah?
its own words, "clarified her position and nature through Sacred
Tradition." Through the centuries, more and more doctrines concerning
her have been revealed. For example:
1. Mary is called the Mother of God. - AD 431
2. Prayers offered to Mary - AD 600
3. Immaculate Conception (that she was sinless) - AD 1854
4. Assumption of Mary - AD 1950
5. Mary Proclaimed Mother of the Church - AD 1965
- carm.org/mary
___________
Parang nag-eevolve yung role ni Mary ah?
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Re: No Mary.....No Salvation!
by Comb@tron Mon Aug 09, 2010 12:11 pm
fredms3 wrote:
So naniniwala ka na sa thread topic kung ganun?
hindi ah
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Re: No Mary.....No Salvation!
by Comb@tron Mon Aug 09, 2010 12:13 pm
Dhugz wrote:
No di namin itinuturing si Mary as a god.
Hindi? pero sa topic NO MARY NO SALVATION hellow? isiniksik sa doktrina ng RCC si Mary imbis na si JESUS CHRIST LANG ANG SAVIOR
MAS MAGANDANG THREAD TOPIC
NO JESUS... NO SALVATION
NO MARY NO SALVATION?? NO WAYY!
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Re: No Mary.....No Salvation!
by fredms3 Mon Aug 09, 2010 12:38 pm
Comb@tron wrote:
hindi ah
Patawa ka rin ano Combat
Sabi mo tapos na pero di ka naman naniniwala sa topic --- so hindi pa tapos hehehe.
Brotherly discussion tayo. So ano ang mali sa aral na yan?
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Re: No Mary.....No Salvation!
by Comb@tron Mon Aug 09, 2010 12:44 pm
^^ hindi ko nasubaybayan yung thread mo sa old barm eh, ang alam ko po tapos so, bakit kailangan pang dalin ditu yun lang po ang akin fred.
ok po, mali yang topic nyu po sabi sa
John 14:6
6Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.
dyan palang sinabi na si JESUS ang Daan, ang Katotohanan at ang Buhay. Walang sinumang makakapunta sa Ama maliban sa pamamagitan ko.
walang sinabing si Mary ang daan at walang sinabing may katulong si JESUS.
ok po, mali yang topic nyu po sabi sa
John 14:6
6Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.
dyan palang sinabi na si JESUS ang Daan, ang Katotohanan at ang Buhay. Walang sinumang makakapunta sa Ama maliban sa pamamagitan ko.
walang sinabing si Mary ang daan at walang sinabing may katulong si JESUS.
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Re: No Mary.....No Salvation!
by fredms3 Mon Aug 09, 2010 12:55 pm
Comb@tron wrote:^^ hindi ko nasubaybayan yung thread mo sa old barm eh, ang alam ko po tapos so, bakit kailangan pang dalin ditu yun lang po ang akin fred.
ok po, mali yang topic nyu po sabi sa
John 14:6
6Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.
dyan palang sinabi na si JESUS ang Daan, ang Katotohanan at ang Buhay. Walang sinumang makakapunta sa Ama maliban sa pamamagitan ko.
walang sinabing si Mary ang daan at walang sinabing may katulong si JESUS.
Actually hindi kumukontra yang verse na yan sa thread topic. Ang sinasabi natin dito ay kung wala si Maria ay hindi maipapanganak si Hesus, derpor, walang tagapagligtas.
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Re: No Mary.....No Salvation!
by Comb@tron Mon Aug 09, 2010 2:39 pm
fredms3 wrote:
Actually hindi kumukontra yang verse na yan sa thread topic. Ang sinasabi natin dito ay kung wala si Maria ay hindi maipapanganak si Hesus, derpor, walang tagapagligtas.
ahh ok, si MARY nga pala chosen one, ginamit lang syang instrument ng Diyos AMA para ipanganak si JESUS so, hanggang doon na lang yon tapos na yung ministry ni Mary kay JEsus so wag na dapat dasalan, ipurusisyon, na tulad na gingawa kay JEsus. Ipantay daw ba si Mary kay JESUS.
Exodus 34:14
Do not worship any other god, for the LORD, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God.
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Re: No Mary.....No Salvation!
by adanedhel Mon Aug 09, 2010 5:15 pm
Ang ibig mo bang sabihin Comb@tron after na naipanganak si Jesus ni Maria wala na syang kwenta?
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Re: No Mary.....No Salvation!
by Comb@tron Tue Aug 10, 2010 8:02 pm
^^ hindi ako sabi nga sa Bible all generation call her BLESS eh.
so hanggang don na lang yon, tapos na yung ministry ni MAma Mary na ipanganak si JESUS.
tigilan na ang pag pray, pagtirik ng kandila, prusisyon, bulungan, etc kay Mama Mary.
Dahil si JESUS lang ang SAVIOR natin
so hanggang don na lang yon, tapos na yung ministry ni MAma Mary na ipanganak si JESUS.
tigilan na ang pag pray, pagtirik ng kandila, prusisyon, bulungan, etc kay Mama Mary.
Dahil si JESUS lang ang SAVIOR natin
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Re: No Mary.....No Salvation!
by fredms3 Tue Aug 10, 2010 10:18 pm
Comb@tron wrote:^^ hindi ako sabi nga sa Bible all generation call her BLESS eh.
so hanggang don na lang yon, tapos na yung ministry ni MAma Mary na ipanganak si JESUS.
tigilan na ang pag pray, pagtirik ng kandila, prusisyon, bulungan, etc kay Mama Mary.
Dahil si JESUS lang ang SAVIOR natin
Sinusunod mo ba ang sinasabi ng Bible na "All generations will call her blessed?"
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Re: No Mary.....No Salvation!
by adanedhel Sat Aug 14, 2010 6:57 pm
all generations will call her blessed...kelan natapos yun?
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Re: No Mary.....No Salvation!
by fredms3 Tue Aug 17, 2010 4:43 pm
adanedhel wrote:all generations will call her blessed...kelan natapos yun?
Sa tingin ko bro di pa nagsisimula sa mga kapatid nating mga Protestants.
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Re: No Mary.....No Salvation!
by Comb@tron Tue Aug 17, 2010 5:06 pm
fredms3 wrote:Sinusunod mo ba ang sinasabi ng Bible na "All generations will call her blessed?"
oo naman no, ang beses ko na sinasabi to hanggang doon na lang yon okis?
Hindi na sya kailangan dasalan, at hindi sya katulong ni JEsus panalanginan okis?
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Re: No Mary.....No Salvation!
by fredms3 Tue Aug 17, 2010 5:09 pm
Comb@tron wrote:
oo naman no, ang beses ko na sinasabi to hanggang doon na lang yon okis?
Hindi na sya kailangan dasalan, at hindi sya katulong ni JEsus panalanginan okis?
OT: Inaayos na Combat ang susunod na EB, sana makasama ka na.
Ibig sabihin tinatawag mo ng 'Blessed' si Mama Mary?
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Re: No Mary.....No Salvation!
by Comb@tron Tue Aug 17, 2010 5:13 pm
^^ hehe may thread ba para dyan? link po
uu naman blessing si Mama Mary satin dahil sya yung chosen one na mag labor kay Jesus, may paggalang naman kami pero hanggang doon na lang yon.
Hindi namin sya kailangang dasalan etc.
uu naman blessing si Mama Mary satin dahil sya yung chosen one na mag labor kay Jesus, may paggalang naman kami pero hanggang doon na lang yon.
Hindi namin sya kailangang dasalan etc.
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Re: No Mary.....No Salvation!
by fredms3 Tue Aug 17, 2010 5:47 pm
Comb@tron wrote:^^ hehe may thread ba para dyan? link po
uu naman blessing si Mama Mary satin dahil sya yung chosen one na mag labor kay Jesus, may paggalang naman kami pero hanggang doon na lang yon.
Hindi namin sya kailangang dasalan etc.
Check mo na lang Combat sa Gen. Discussion forum and makikita dun yung topic about dyan.
How about calling her blessed as in Blessed Mary or blessed mother of Jesus?
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