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Post by MarcCatholic Mon Aug 23, 2010 6:54 am

I disagree Ateo. Of course I want a God-fearing girlfriend na kumbaga e may refinement in morality. Very Happy
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Post by sakundes Mon Aug 23, 2010 8:49 am

LOL! True @INC. Buti nalang talaga hindi ako umibig sa isang INC. Yari 'pag dumating ang time na yon! May crush nga ako na born again e na bawal din na ibang religion. So paano na ako? Chos lang. Ahehehehe! Wala naman akong balak jowain yon. Masayang masaya na ako sa kapwa ko katoliko. Kuya Sak paano ka? Buti ok lang sa'yo noh? Ahehehe!

the GF is methodist and i have plans to convert my catholic birthright when we tie the knot lols

I dont attend catholic mass anymore but whenever she's getting the feeling she'll ask me to attend their methodist mass. i have no qualms about that and im unaffected. yoko lang sa mga born-agen(?) mass weh ubod ng tagal around 2hours. yung sa katoliko pa nga lang gumegewang nako sa antok weh pano pa kaya yung sa iba? lols +_+

pero okie lang basta masaya si gf, tsaka solb na ngaun yung church nila at centralized na (ASTEG! kahit san wula pa ko nakitang simbahan na CENTRALIZED! bweheheh). other than that she knows full well that im an antichrist pero it's not a biggie in our relationship. we never talk about god (except when she's motivating me that god will help me etc). her ffamily does not know about the extent of my EVILNESS (lol) but they do know that i have radical (COOL) disposition regarding religion.

good thing i've seen from methodists is that they dont discriminate other religions and that they are very socially connected. may individual participation sila sa mass nila di tulad ng katoliko na one-man show, so you'd feel that you really matter and you really belong.

I have a soft spot with methodists and i'll save them from the blasphemous teachings of my dark gospel.. but as for INCs... they better get ready for some serious bloodletting @_@

so far im good with the GF.. it's easy to find women these days (especially those with loose morals j3j3j3) pero finding a wife-material is one in a million. so im kinda enjoying the last stages of my hedonistic ways and i'll be living the hermetic life (lolerz) in a coupla years ^_^
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Post by Ateo Mon Aug 23, 2010 9:11 am

MarcCatholic wrote:I disagree Ateo. Of course I want a God-fearing girlfriend na kumbaga e may refinement in morality. Very Happy

Whoa! Why did you conclude that atheists are immoral? Which immorality did we commit as a class of people?
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Post by sakundes Mon Aug 23, 2010 9:17 am


Whoa! Why did you conclude that atheists are immoral? Which immorality did we commit as a class of people?

that's right.. i think the closest we can come up to would be "AMORAL"

and in a DEISTIC point of view.. id say a god should be amoral ^_^
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Post by fredms3 Mon Aug 23, 2010 11:03 am

Alang Diyos at alang diablo.....ang labo naman nyan lol!
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Post by MarcCatholic Mon Aug 23, 2010 9:00 pm

Kuya Ken, mabuti at masaya ka sa gf mo. Malay mo balang araw e matagpuan mo pala ang kaliwanagan from your frequent worship services your gf. Naku, di lang ako payag doon sa 1-man show sa sinabi mo dahil as a liturgical musician, ang assembly po ang bida sa amin. Ang mga nagsisimba. In fact, in terms of hierarchy during litrugical celebrations e sila ang top 1. Siguro nga hindi nyo ito naintindihan kuya Ken at superficial lang ang nakikita nyo sa eucharist. Ahehehe! Anyway, sana maikasal ka na at nang makapunta kami. LOLS!


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Alam mo na tinutukoy ko diyan pero hindi ko sinasabing mga imoral na kayong lahat talaga. Ahehehe! Of course may kaibahan yon kumpara sa isang tao na masyadong free lang at wala nang iniisip na baka mali ang gagawin dahil wala naman siyang inaasahang pagkakasala. Ahehehe! Of course hindi ko sinasabing lahat kayo ganoon. Ang sa akin lang e yong mindset ng isang gf material. Gusto ko pareho kaming may takot sa Diyos at sa oras ng aming kagipitan e dudulog kami sa Diyos hindi kanya-kanya. Higit sa lahat syempre palagi naming pasasalamatan ang Diyos.
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Post by sakundes Mon Aug 23, 2010 9:19 pm

Kuya Ken, mabuti at masaya ka sa gf mo. Malay mo balang araw e matagpuan mo pala ang kaliwanagan from your frequent worship services your gf. Naku, di lang ako payag doon sa 1-man show sa sinabi mo dahil as a liturgical musician, ang assembly po ang bida sa amin. Ang mga nagsisimba. In fact, in terms of hierarchy during litrugical celebrations e sila ang top 1. Siguro nga hindi nyo ito naintindihan kuya Ken at superficial lang ang nakikita nyo sa eucharist. Ahehehe! Anyway, sana maikasal ka na at nang makapunta kami. LOLS!

nakow aku ay laki sa isang katolikong angkan kay kabisado ko na yang mga seremonyas na yan mula nung musmos pa lamang meh lolz. yung mga lola ko madalas aku isama pag may padasal nung panahon ni cory at ni ramos. wula akse libangan mga katandaan nun at di pa uso fezzbuk or YM kaya ang recreation lang nila pag gabe weh puro padasal. nako inaabot kame ng ilang oras kakarosaryo at ilang dasal na di ko na matandaan. ang gusto ko lang weh pagkatapos ng padasal weh yung kainan.. syempre basta libre masarap lolz +_+

about morals naman weh di naman pede masabi na imoral kame.. kumbaga weh PROGRESIBO lang ng onte j3j3j3 ^_^
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Post by MarcCatholic Tue Aug 24, 2010 12:01 am

Ahehehe. Iba naman po yong case na yon kuya kesa sa misa e. Syempre, pag misa bida ang assembly. Lagi kaming pinaaalalahanan niyan kaya dapat pumili kami ng mga songs na makasasabay ang tao. Yong pari e presider siya ng sakramento sapagkat si Kristo talaga ang pinakabida sa seremonyas habang ang mga tao ang bida sa lahat ng dumalo. Very Happy


Sa tingin ko nga kayo ang mga tipong agresibo kuya. Ahehehe. Game na game lagi. Very Happy
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Post by sakundes Wed Aug 25, 2010 12:01 am

well no matter how many hundreds of masses i attend to, i cant still lie to myself ^_^

I am and will forever be an antitheist ^_^

Ahehehe. Iba naman po yong case na yon kuya kesa sa misa e. Syempre, pag misa bida ang assembly. Lagi kaming pinaaalalahanan niyan kaya dapat pumili kami ng mga songs na makasasabay ang tao. Yong pari e presider siya ng sakramento sapagkat si Kristo talaga ang pinakabida sa seremonyas habang ang mga tao ang bida sa lahat ng dumalo.

the only thing worth my time with masses would be the sermons.. it irks meh and enrages me to no end about all the bullcrap spewing from the priests' mouth. im all facepalm mode everytime the sermon hits the floor lols ^_^

of course id love to just stand there and challenge the presider to a debate, but of course i must observe proper decorum lols ^_^
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Post by MarcCatholic Wed Aug 25, 2010 12:35 am

Of course that's the best thing you can do during mass kuya. LOL! What if you have a deal with yourself? Let's say you try not to be skeptic to Christianity for a week. You try to understand the feeling of having a God. I hope you would do it since wala namang mawawala sa'yo e. You said you'll be forever atheist right? So why not try that stuff? Let's say if there's a miracle going to happen. Ahehehe! Very Happy
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Post by sakundes Wed Aug 25, 2010 12:57 am

Of course that's the best thing you can do during mass kuya. LOL! What if you have a deal with yourself? Let's say you try not to be skeptic to Christianity for a week. You try to understand the feeling of having a God. I hope you would do it since wala namang mawawala sa'yo e. You said you'll be forever atheist right? So why not try that stuff? Let's say if there's a miracle going to happen. Ahehehe!

i've been there dood.. i was a pious little kid growing up ^_^

maybe when i lose some neurons and a few IQ points then maybe i can follow your advice hehehe +_+

it'll just be a total waste of my time.. and time aint that easy to find nowadays ^_^
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Post by MarcCatholic Wed Aug 25, 2010 3:19 am

Ahehehehe. Ok Kuya Ken pero what if subukan mo lang. You're not afraid of hell naman diba so there's no need to worry when rapture comes. LOL! It's different talaga nung bata ka pa kasi di mo pa nai-evaluate ang yong faith noon. What if subukan mo ngayon. At least hindi ka galit sa Christianity. Very Happy
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Post by element_115x Wed Aug 25, 2010 2:46 pm

MarcCatholic wrote:Of course that's the best thing you can do during mass kuya. LOL! What if you have a deal with yourself? Let's say you try not to be skeptic to Christianity for a week. You try to understand the feeling of having a God. I hope you would do it since wala namang mawawala sa'yo e. You said you'll be forever atheist right? So why not try that stuff? Let's say if there's a miracle going to happen. Ahehehe! Very Happy

Naka relate ako sa post mo na ito... lately kasi may chatmates ako na mga 'sensitive' clairvoyants pa nga yung iba, and i joined their group. Member na ako hehe. More on the universal guardian spirits ang approach dun, no talk of religious beliefs and stuff. I'm now a spiritual atheist hehe Laughing But of course nasa back pa rin ng mind ko yung about the 'Demon Haunted World" ni Carl Sagan, pati na rin yung "Enemies of Reason" ni Dawkins... but. what the heck, i'll see and observe what happens from my point of view.
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Post by Ateo Wed Aug 25, 2010 2:51 pm

Spiritual atheism is good. According to studies, spirituality is actually built into our genes (as a result of thousands of years of having deluded, spiritual, faithful ancestors). So, it is actually more fun and more natural to continue to indulge your spiritual need even as you rejected its theological underpinnings.
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Post by element_115x Wed Aug 25, 2010 3:07 pm

Ateo wrote:Spiritual atheism is good. According to studies, spirituality is actually built into our genes (as a result of thousands of years of having deluded, spiritual, faithful ancestors). So, it is actually more fun and more natural to continue to indulge your spiritual need even as you rejected its theological underpinnings.

That's true... i think even Sam Harris indulges with such things. Parang i was thinking, life is too short to indulge ourselves with utilitarian and practical stuff alone. Siguro nag spark sa akin ito after watching Zeitgeist and Acharya S. and things like those. As far as me being an atheist - it's still there, but not that it's the headlining part of me. It's just a label anyway. And i still don't subscribe to a master-slave set-up. And even if what theists' think of God stands right in front of me, i won't think of it as 'God'... the term's so much jaded IMO. So now the whole religion/spiritual trend for me is a toss up between psychology/metaphysics and ancient astronaut hehehe
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Post by MarcCatholic Wed Aug 25, 2010 10:32 pm

Element, that's nice to hear. Hmmmm what if one day you'll encounter an angel perfectly being described in the Bible and he became, at least, your pal? Very Happy Anyway, I hope this is not just your way of denial when you try to experience spirituality stuff and is still persistent to resent of the possible circumstance that could lead you in some enlightenment in the existence of God. I mean, you must be fair really when you attempt to be "religious". These phenomena isn't in the field of science so at least you're going beyond the idea of your skepticism. Oh God does miracles so I hope He appears to you in one of your activities though I know you would not recognize Him. Very Happy
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Post by Ateo Thu Aug 26, 2010 6:43 am

God bless u, marc. I hope u can lead Sakundes and Element to the path of godliness.
Lots of pogi points in heaven is awaiting u
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Post by vril Thu Aug 26, 2010 12:11 pm

love does not suck. religion does. Razz
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Post by element_115x Thu Aug 26, 2010 12:18 pm

MarcCatholic wrote:Element, that's nice to hear. Hmmmm what if one day you'll encounter an angel perfectly being described in the Bible and he became, at least, your pal? Very Happy Anyway, I hope this is not just your way of denial when you try to experience spirituality stuff and is still persistent to resent of the possible circumstance that could lead you in some enlightenment in the existence of God. I mean, you must be fair really when you attempt to be "religious". These phenomena isn't in the field of science so at least you're going beyond the idea of your skepticism. Oh God does miracles so I hope He appears to you in one of your activities though I know you would not recognize Him. Very Happy

My claim to know of such things now is 'not to sound' that i know everything. I just think of things in terms of, say -- the existence of Giant squids, which decades/centuries ago was categorized as mythological creatures.

I think that i've stressed in previous statements of mine that i don't tend to put finalities or conclusions on a lot of things. With God beliefs though, it's either we quantify what (a)God (Gods/gods/god) really is, or it's place remains in the realm of the metaphysical/psychological, ergo 'cerebral pursuits'... that's all i'm saying. Smile
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Post by MarcCatholic Thu Aug 26, 2010 10:12 pm

Good luck to you brother. I am interested to whatever you'll discover in the process. Very Happy
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Post by Liway Fri Aug 27, 2010 4:10 pm

pwee what a very very non educational adviser you are Ateo. pweee!

you better study in my academy pweeee!


he he he bakit ayaw mapalitan yung avatar ni Esther?


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Post by Liway Fri Aug 27, 2010 4:43 pm

hi hi hi bakit ayaw mapalitan yung avatar ni Esther hik hik hik
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Post by Ateo Fri Aug 27, 2010 10:55 pm

Liway, you are h o t !!! Or at least your avatar is. And your siggy, "just tell me how badly you want me" looks juicy and inviting.

Pentecostals are sizzling.
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Post by MarcCatholic Fri Aug 27, 2010 11:08 pm

Hay naku Liway. Ang ganda-ganda naman ng mga pictures mo. Very Happy
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Post by sakundes Sat Aug 28, 2010 4:49 pm

God bless u, marc. I hope u can lead Sakundes and Element to the path of godliness.
Lots of pogi points in heaven is awaiting u


nakow like hell I will.. id sooner be a rizalista than sign up with that crappy christian shiat lols +_+

everything is much more free, much more fun, and much more exciting here as an atheist. gawd just gets in the way.

and also.. lahat ng gustu ko weh ayaw ni gawd, hedonism, bisyow, at mga makasalanang gawain. ay nakezz kemberluu nalang sya, Chozzz +_+
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