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Post by harballah Sun Jul 25, 2010 4:05 pm

Magandang araw po sa inyong lahat mga kapatid kung mga kristiyano, nais ko lamang malaman ang inyong pananaw o doktorina pagdating sa bagay na ito.

Sa inyong kinabilangan ay pinapayagan ba ang ganitong gawain ang pagsasama ng lalaki at babae na walang kasal, sila po ba ay hindi nagkakasala sa mata ng Diyos.

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Post by Dhugz Sun Jul 25, 2010 5:31 pm

Oo naman Harballah, alam naman ng mundo ang aral ng Santa Iglesia Tungkol diyan, ito ay kasalanan, o mortal sin sa mata ng Diyos at sa kanyang Iglesia.
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Post by harballah Sun Jul 25, 2010 7:49 pm

Dhugz wrote:Oo naman Harballah, alam naman ng mundo ang aral ng Santa Iglesia Tungkol diyan, ito ay kasalanan, o mortal sin sa mata ng Diyos at sa kanyang Iglesia.

So, may ginagawa ba ang simbahan sa mga ganitong kalakaran, sila ba ay pinapayagan na magsimba kung alam ng simbahan na sila ay imoral sa mata ng Diyos.

Ano nga ba ang parusa sa kanila na naghihintay sa kabilang buhay, can you cite any verse from your bible.


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Post by Dhugz Sun Jul 25, 2010 8:08 pm

Bakit naman sila pipigilan ng Simbahan para makimisa? Gayong sabi mismo ni Cristo, ang sinumang walang kasalanan ay siyang unang babato sa taong nagkasala, kaya maliwanag na kahit sino man sa atin, wlang karapatan na pigilan ang sinuman para lumapit sa Diyos.
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Post by bench Sun Jul 25, 2010 9:14 pm

mas malamang nasa government ang problema, secondary na lang siguro ang church.
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Post by miss_terry Sun Jul 25, 2010 10:44 pm

Do we have to be dictated by society and other people to make a decision? Choose what's best. Be more practical nowadays. Be more wise in choosing a partner. Live in for me is the time to know more about your partner (compatibility, lifestyle; what should be change or not attitude/personality) before entering into marriage.
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Post by fredms3 Sun Jul 25, 2010 10:53 pm

harballah wrote:Magandang araw po sa inyong lahat mga kapatid kung mga kristiyano, nais ko lamang malaman ang inyong pananaw o doktorina pagdating sa bagay na ito.

Sa inyong kinabilangan ay pinapayagan ba ang ganitong gawain ang pagsasama ng lalaki at babae na walang kasal, sila po ba ay hindi nagkakasala sa mata ng Diyos.

Maraming salamat po!

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Sa RCC hindi dahil ito'y isang kasalanan. Ini-enjoin ang magsing-irog na magpakasal kung sakaling sila ay nagsasama na sa iisang bubong.
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Post by harballah Sun Jul 25, 2010 11:26 pm

Dhugz wrote:Bakit naman sila pipigilan ng Simbahan para makimisa? Gayong sabi mismo ni Cristo, ang sinumang walang kasalanan ay siyang unang babato sa taong nagkasala, kaya maliwanag na kahit sino man sa atin, wlang karapatan na pigilan ang sinuman para lumapit sa Diyos.

Kung ganoon Dhugz ay malaya silang pumasok sa simbahan sa kabila ng gawain labag sa doktorina ng simbahan, tama ba?

Naroon na ako na walang sinuman makapigil sa taong gustong lumapit sa Diyos ngunit sa tingin mo Dhugz ay kaaya-aya parin na pumapasok siya sa simbahan na hindi nagsisi sa kanyang ginagawa, ano ba ang sabi ng bibliya ninyo patungkol dito.

Sana mayron po kayong maibigay na talata basi sa napapag-usapan natin dito kaibigan Dhugz.

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Post by harballah Sun Jul 25, 2010 11:28 pm

Dhugz wrote:Bakit naman sila pipigilan ng Simbahan para makimisa? Gayong sabi mismo ni Cristo, ang sinumang walang kasalanan ay siyang unang babato sa taong nagkasala, kaya maliwanag na kahit sino man sa atin, wlang karapatan na pigilan ang sinuman para lumapit sa Diyos.

Kung ganoon Dhugz ay malaya silang pumasok sa simbahan sa kabila ng gawain labag sa doktorina ng simbahan, tama ba?

Naroon na ako na walang sinuman makapigil sa taong gustong lumapit sa Diyos ngunit sa tingin mo Dhugz ay kaaya-aya parin na pumapasok siya sa simbahan na hindi nagsisi sa kanyang ginagawa, ano ba ang sabi ng bibliya ninyo patungkol dito.

Sana mayron po kayong maibigay na talata basi sa napapag-usapan natin dito kaibigan Dhugz.

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Post by harballah Sun Jul 25, 2010 11:35 pm

miss_terry wrote:Do we have to be dictated by society and other people to make a decision? Choose what's best. Be more practical nowadays. Be more wise in choosing a partner. Live in for me is the time to know more about your partner (compatibility, lifestyle; what should be change or not attitude/personality) before entering into marriage.

Ibig mong sabihin ay okey lang po sa inyo ang LIVE-IN, ano ba ang sabi ng bibliya mo tungkol diyan hindi ba iyan ipinagbawal sa inyo ?


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Sa RCC hindi dahil ito'y isang kasalanan. Ini-enjoin ang magsing-irog na magpakasal kung sakaling sila ay nagsasama na sa iisang bubong.

Kumusta kana bro.

Anyway, ano ba ang naghihintay sa lalaki at babae na nagsasama ng walang kasal sa araw na yaon, may parusa bang naghihintay sa kanila kung sakali, at kung mayroon ay saan po natin ito mababasa.

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Post by harballah Sun Jul 25, 2010 11:36 pm

miss_terry wrote:Do we have to be dictated by society and other people to make a decision? Choose what's best. Be more practical nowadays. Be more wise in choosing a partner. Live in for me is the time to know more about your partner (compatibility, lifestyle; what should be change or not attitude/personality) before entering into marriage.

Ibig mong sabihin ay okey lang po sa inyo ang LIVE-IN, ano ba ang sabi ng bibliya mo tungkol diyan hindi ba iyan ipinagbawal sa inyo ?


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Harby,

Sa RCC hindi dahil ito'y isang kasalanan. Ini-enjoin ang magsing-irog na magpakasal kung sakaling sila ay nagsasama na sa iisang bubong.

Kumusta kana bro.

Anyway, ano ba ang naghihintay sa lalaki at babae na nagsasama ng walang kasal sa araw na yaon, may parusa bang naghihintay sa kanila kung sakali, at kung mayroon ay saan po natin ito mababasa.

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Post by miss_terry Mon Jul 26, 2010 1:01 pm

For practicality's sake. Marami kayang magagastos sa kasal. LOL
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Post by element_115x Mon Jul 26, 2010 1:10 pm

miss_terry wrote:Do we have to be dictated by society and other people to make a decision? Choose what's best. Be more practical nowadays. Be more wise in choosing a partner. Live in for me is the time to know more about your partner (compatibility, lifestyle; what should be change or not attitude/personality) before entering into marriage.

Ok lang yan siguro if you don't get pregnant in the process! Dehado ang girls sa ganyang situation. Kaya ang daming single moms lately. Smile
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Post by miss_terry Mon Jul 26, 2010 1:14 pm

Hindi ko talaga nakikita kung anong mali sa paglilive-in. Please enlighten me. Give me quotes in the Bible regarding these matter. Thanks
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Post by element_115x Mon Jul 26, 2010 1:23 pm

miss_terry wrote:Hindi ko talaga nakikita kung anong mali sa paglilive-in. Please enlighten me. Give me quotes in the Bible regarding these matter. Thanks

For now, shocking! Kasi ang bata mo pa to talk about such things! hehehe

I see nothing wrong with live-ins as we know it to be. Just be sure to get a Civil wedding nalang if ayaw mo ng Church weddings para may protection ka kahit papaano. Razz


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Post by miss_terry Mon Jul 26, 2010 1:28 pm

Hindi na po ako bata. Lol
Syempre naman, I'll be getting married soon.
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Post by fredms3 Mon Jul 26, 2010 1:36 pm

miss_terry wrote:Hindi ko talaga nakikita kung anong mali sa paglilive-in. Please enlighten me. Give me quotes in the Bible regarding these matter. Thanks

Sis Terry, siguro naman alam mo kung ano ang ibig sabihin ng fornication?
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Post by miss_terry Mon Jul 26, 2010 1:37 pm

Hindi po. Paki-explain. Hehe
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Post by fredms3 Mon Jul 26, 2010 1:43 pm

miss_terry wrote:Hindi po. Paki-explain. Hehe

Sex outside marriage. Binabale-wala kasi natin ang sakramento ng kasal na itinalaga mismo ng Diyos noong una pa man kapag sasabihin nating ok ang live-in. LIVE-IN Icon_smile
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Post by miss_terry Mon Jul 26, 2010 1:46 pm

Ah. Kaya po ba nagiging kasalanan dahil doon?
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Post by sakundes Mon Jul 26, 2010 1:48 pm

marriage aint nothing but a state of mind... for me it's just formality and tradition's sake. it's all paperwork.
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Post by miss_terry Mon Jul 26, 2010 2:00 pm

Sa mata kasi ng batas kailangan ng kasal/marriage contract. Hehe
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Post by fredms3 Mon Jul 26, 2010 2:42 pm

miss_terry wrote:Ah. Kaya po ba nagiging kasalanan dahil doon?

Opo sis Terry unless ok sa atin na balewalain si God ay masasabi nating ok nga ang live-in.
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Post by fredms3 Mon Jul 26, 2010 2:45 pm

sakundes wrote:marriage aint nothing but a state of mind... for me it's just formality and tradition's sake. it's all paperwork.

Sans formality and traditions etc...God designed it just as He designed you --- a unique person.
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Post by harballah Mon Jul 26, 2010 5:30 pm

miss_terry wrote:For practicality's sake. Marami kayang magagastos sa kasal. LOL

Alam mo miss_terry hindi dahilan ang pagiging magastos sa kasal para gawin mo ang isang bagay na alam mong malaking kasalanan sa lumikha sa inyo, tama si Freds na fornication ang tawag sa nagsasama na walang bendisyon ng kasal.


@Freds
Iyong tanong ko po sa inyo, kung may time po kayo ay pakisagot lang po pero kung wala naman ay okey lang po.

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