How do you explain...

BibleBot wrote:bakit di ba naniniwala ang lds sa trinity

sakundes wrote:simple lang.. 3 seperate conciousness then 3 seperate entities.. and dont blast me with that "mystery thang" that catholics often spew out lels @_@

Amp'd wrote:
Uhm, as far as I understand your terminology, I believe the LDS do not believe in what you protestants and other trinitarians call "The Trinity".

You can check in our church's website in the gospel topics doctrinal index by clicking here.

You will notice that it does not mention a thing about "The Trinity". I was hoping that trinitarians can try to explain it in the simplest way ever.

Please define "The Trinity". And please try to explain it to me as if I were an eight year old boy who is striving to understand its concepts.

Thank you.

BibleBot wrote:

para sa iyo ano ba ang trinity

kasi impossible na wala kayong trinity o ayaw nyo lang ng salitang trinity

kasi me godhead terminology kayo eh

BibleBot wrote:ano ang pagkakaiba ng godhead ng lds sa godhead ng ibang christian movement

MarcCatholic wrote:Parang ganito po kowya. May tatlong baso, tapos may isang pitsel ng tubig (wag nyo na po itanong sa akin kung saan galing ang tubig). Ngayon, yong tubig sa loob nun, ilalagay mo sa tatlong baso pareho ang dami. Iisang tubig po yon kaso nasa tatlong baso. Maaaring yong isang baso ay pang-inom ng gamot samantalang yong isa ay pang-toothbrush at yong pangatlo ay siguro panghugas ng yong kamay. May iba't iba po silang role pero iisa lang ang esensya. Iisang tubig lang po sila.

MarcCatholic wrote:Parang ganito po kowya. May tatlong baso, tapos may isang pitsel ng tubig (wag nyo na po itanong sa akin kung saan galing ang tubig). Ngayon, yong tubig sa loob nun, ilalagay mo sa tatlong baso pareho ang dami. Iisang tubig po yon kaso nasa tatlong baso. Maaaring yong isang baso ay pang-inom ng gamot samantalang yong isa ay pang-toothbrush at yong pangatlo ay siguro panghugas ng yong kamay. May iba't iba po silang role pero iisa lang ang esensya. Iisang tubig lang po sila.

MarcCatholic wrote:Parang ganito po kowya. May tatlong baso, tapos may isang pitsel ng tubig (wag nyo na po itanong sa akin kung saan galing ang tubig). Ngayon, yong tubig sa loob nun, ilalagay mo sa tatlong baso pareho ang dami. Iisang tubig po yon kaso nasa tatlong baso. Maaaring yong isang baso ay pang-inom ng gamot samantalang yong isa ay pang-toothbrush at yong pangatlo ay siguro panghugas ng yong kamay. May iba't iba po silang role pero iisa lang ang esensya. Iisang tubig lang po sila.

Amp'd wrote:The Trinity let's say if I were an eight year old child trying to figure out what this means to my faith? If I were a young child raised in a church that believes in The Trinity, how would you make it sensible to me?

adanedhel wrote:

The Holy Trinity is like the ice, water and water vapor. They have different phases but they are one.

adanedhel wrote:Appeal to authority.

Any model have deficiencies, we cannot exactly represent the Trinity with models. What I understand in the model I present is that all three phases are still H2O, hence one.

Jewel wrote:

So you are admitting now that the model that you presented does not represent/explain the trinity, arent you?

Could you explain to us how did the trinitarians come up to formulate such doctrine when they dont understand/cant logically explain it in the first place?

adanedhel wrote:
To some extent models explain the nature of the Trinity, but like all models they cannot exhaustively explain or demonstrate the nature of the Trinity.

Your second question is a fallacy of many questions. I'm a trinitarian and I explain because I understand, not because I don't understand and cannot logically explain.

Amp'd wrote:The Trinity let's say if I were an eight year old child trying to figure out what this means to my faith? If I were a young child raised in a church that believes in The Trinity, how would you make it sensible to me?

Jewel wrote:

I dont think so because any model can be explained logically while the trinity can not. Whatever you do, when you relate the model to the trinity, there is always a problem in every angle.


I dont think that you really understand the trinity because if you cant explain it logically that means you dont really grasp it. How is it that each of the three persons is fully God yet they are but one God. And the problem doesnt end there, you have Jesus who is fully human and fully God both at the same time; to be full man excludes any divinity and to be fully God excludes any humanity - you cant have it both at the same time.

adanedhel wrote:

Sometimes I wonder why when a man and a woman when they get married they become one...this is the understanding in Christianity, I don't know in Islam if a man marries a woman, do they become one? Because a Muslim male can marry several females, so basically a Muslim cannot understand the concept of the Trinity because even in his own human experience he cannot understand why 2 people can become 1.

God's nature cannot be understood by using mathematics.

adanedhel wrote:Appeal to authority.

Any model have deficiencies, we cannot exactly represent the Trinity with models. What I understand in the model I present is that all three phases are still H2O, hence one.