Re: Bakit may mga terroristang muslim?

by RavlaM Fri Oct 01, 2010 8:59 pm

harballah wrote:

Hindi kaba nagbabasa ng post ko, ilang beses na akong nagpaliwanag at naglalatag ng mga talata, kaya nga ikaw ang tinatanong ko kung saan turo ang suicide bombing, bakit hindi mo alam?

Ano ang alamo mo sa Moro can you cite here.

Alam po ninyo Harballah, nakikita naman po na may mga terroristang islam. Kahit po sa panahon ng ninuno ninyo ay may kakaibang suicide attack ang mga moro na ang tawag ay "juramentado".

Kung bawal po ang terrorismo sa hanay ng mga muslim bakit po mayroong mga terroristang muslim?
Bakit po ba sila namamali ng landas?

by **harballah** Fri Oct 01, 2010 9:20 pm

Pakisagot na lang iyong tanong ko (REDMARK) ravlam, paikot-ikot ka lang kasi.

harballah wrote:

Hindi kaba nagbabasa ng post ko, ilang beses na akong nagpaliwanag at naglalatag ng mga talata, kaya nga ikaw ang tinatanong ko kung saan turo ang suicide bombing, bakit hindi mo alam?

Ano ang alamo mo sa Moro can you cite here.

by RavlaM Fri Oct 01, 2010 9:49 pm

harballah wrote:Pakisagot na lang iyong tanong ko (REDMARK) ravlam, paikot-ikot ka lang kasi.

Kaya nga po ako nagtatanong eh kayo naman po ang nagpapasa ng katanungan sa akin.

by **harballah** Sat Oct 02, 2010 2:05 am

RavlaM wrote:

Kaya nga po ako nagtatanong eh kayo naman po ang nagpapasa ng katanungan sa akin.

Nasagot na kasi kita at ikaw iyong tinatanong ko kung saan ang katibayan mo na itinuturo ang suicide bombing, iyong mga post mo kasi ay puro haka-haka at walang talata sa Quran nagsasabing katuruan ang suicide bombing, in fact ako mayroon pa akong katibayan na kasalanan iyan kaso puro na lang ako ang nagpapaskil ng katibayan gayong ikaw ay puro laway lang at imahe kung saan binigyan mo ng interpretasyon mo.

Mayroon ka bang sagot o wala ?

by RavlaM Sat Oct 02, 2010 8:14 am

harballah wrote:

Nasagot na kasi kita at ikaw iyong tinatanong ko kung saan ang katibayan mo na itinuturo ang suicide bombing, iyong mga post mo kasi ay puro haka-haka at walang talata sa Quran nagsasabing katuruan ang suicide bombing, in fact ako mayroon pa akong katibayan na kasalanan iyan kaso puro na lang ako ang nagpapaskil ng katibayan gayong ikaw ay puro laway lang at imahe kung saan binigyan mo ng interpretasyon mo.

Mayroon ka bang sagot o wala ?

Kung namamali po sila bakit po sila naliligaw ng landas? At kapansin-pansin sa mga larawan ay naiuugnay ang kanilang aksyon sa Islam?

Alam ko po na may napakaraming talata ang quran ukol sa pakikipag digmaan, maari po bang namali po ang mga terroristang muslim ng intindi sa maraming talata paukol sa pakikipagdigmaan?

by **harballah** Sat Oct 02, 2010 6:05 pm

RavlaM wrote:
Kung namamali po sila bakit po sila naliligaw ng landas? At kapansin-pansin sa mga larawan ay naiuugnay ang kanilang aksyon sa Islam?

Alam ko po na may napakaraming talata ang quran ukol sa pakikipag digmaan, maari po bang namali po ang mga terroristang muslim ng intindi sa maraming talata paukol sa pakikipagdigmaan?

Kung naligaw sila ng landas hindi dahil sa Islam kundi dahil sa sariling interest nila, o papaano mailatag mo na ba ang tanong ko.

harballah wrote:

Nasagot na kasi kita at ikaw iyong tinatanong ko kung saan ang katibayan mo na itinuturo ang suicide bombing, iyong mga post mo kasi ay puro haka-haka at walang talata sa Quran nagsasabing katuruan ang suicide bombing, in fact ako mayroon pa akong katibayan na kasalanan iyan kaso puro na lang ako ang nagpapaskil ng katibayan gayong ikaw ay puro laway lang at imahe kung saan binigyan mo ng interpretasyon mo.

Mayroon ka bang sagot o wala ?

by RavlaM Sun Oct 03, 2010 12:55 am

harballah wrote:

Kung naligaw sila ng landas hindi dahil sa Islam kundi dahil sa sariling interest nila, o papaano mailatag mo na ba ang tanong ko.

Gusto ko po talagang malaman ang physiology ng pagkakaroon ng islamic terrorism.
Sa aking pagsasaliksik eh ibat -ibang kadahilanan ang nabanggit.

Sa aking palagay ay ang "addictive thinging" on islam ang mas makatotohanan.

by **harballah** Sun Oct 03, 2010 3:26 am

RavlaM wrote:

Gusto ko po talagang malaman ang physiology ng pagkakaroon ng islamic terrorism.
Sa aking pagsasaliksik eh ibat -ibang kadahilanan ang nabanggit.

Sa aking palagay ay ang "addictive thinging" on islam ang mas makatotohanan.

Ravlam sana mailatag mo na iyong talatang nagsasabing sinabi mong itinuturo ang suicide bombing sa Islam, para naman bigayan tayo at hindi ako itong sagot ng sagot.

by RavlaM Sun Oct 03, 2010 10:12 am

harballah wrote:

Ravlam sana mailatag mo na iyong talatang nagsasabing sinabi mong itinuturo ang suicide bombing sa Islam, para naman bigayan tayo at hindi ako itong sagot ng sagot.

Hindi po ninyo naintindihan, hindi po mga talata ang ugat ng terrorismong islam kundi ang kabuuan ng quran.

by **harballah** Mon Oct 04, 2010 2:30 am

RavlaM wrote:

Hindi po ninyo naintindihan, hindi po mga talata ang ugat ng terrorismong islam kundi ang kabuuan ng quran.

So patunayan mo iyan at huwag haka-haka............kasi kung Quran po ang dahilan ay dapat lahat ng Muslim ay terorista hindi po ba, sana gamitan ng common sense ng hindi matuliro.

by RavlaM Mon Oct 04, 2010 8:21 am

harballah wrote:

So patunayan mo iyan at huwag haka-haka............kasi kung Quran po ang dahilan ay dapat lahat ng Muslim ay terorista hindi po ba, sana gamitan ng common sense ng hindi matuliro.

Hindi po ninyo naiintindihan ang sabi ko po ay ang "addictive thinking" ng isang muslim ang nagtutulak sa kanila sa pagiging suicide bomber, kaya kung tatanungin mo ako eh hindi po isa o dalawang talata ang nagudyok sa isang muslim na maging terrorista kundi ang kabuuan na nito.

by **harballah** Mon Oct 04, 2010 5:50 pm

Sana mailatag na iyong quran na nagtuturo daw ng puwedeng magsagawa ng suicide bombing ayon kay ravlam. lol!

by RavlaM Mon Oct 04, 2010 8:45 pm

harballah wrote:Sana mailatag na iyong quran na nagtuturo daw ng puwedeng magsagawa ng suicide bombing ayon kay ravlam.

Hindi po ninyo naiintindihan ang sabi ko po ay ang "addictive thinking" ng isang muslim ang nagtutulak sa kanila sa pagiging suicide bombero o terrorista, kaya kung tatanungin mo po ako eh hindi po isa o dalawang talata ang nagudyok sa isang muslim na maging terrorista kundi ang kabuuan na nito.

by **harballah** Mon Oct 04, 2010 11:31 pm

Ravlam nasaan na iyong verse sa Quran na nagtuturo ng suicide bombing, hanggang laway lang ba ang kaya mong ipaskil dito.

by RavlaM Tue Oct 05, 2010 12:13 am

harballah wrote:Ravlam nasaan na iyong verse sa Quran na nagtuturo ng suicide bombing, hanggang laway lang ba ang kaya mong ipaskil dito.

Antagal na po nakaumang nga post kong ito, sana naiintindihan nyo po. Razz

Hindi po ninyo naiintindihan ang sabi ko po ay ang "addictive thinking" ng isang muslim ang nagtutulak sa kanila sa pagiging suicide bombero o terrorista, kaya kung tatanungin mo po ako eh hindi po isa o dalawang talata ang nagudyok sa isang muslim na maging terrorista kundi ang kabuuan na nito.

Umiiwas po ba kayo.. Wink

by **harballah** Tue Oct 05, 2010 1:21 am

Kapag may quran verse kana pakigising lang ako, huwag mo lang i-untog

ang ulo mo sa computer mo tulad ng nasa signature mo kapag hindi mo nakita ang quran verse na hinahanap ko.

by RavlaM Tue Oct 05, 2010 1:42 am

harballah wrote:Kapag may quran verse kana pakigising lang ako, huwag mo lang i-untog

ang ulo mo sa computer mo tulad ng nasa signature mo kapag hindi mo nakita ang quran verse na hinahanap ko.

Hehehe salamat po at napansin ninyo ang avatar ko, ambangis ano?

So tanggap na po ninyo na hindi isa o ilan man ang naguudyok sa mga "addict thinkers" ng islam kundi ang kabuuan nito.

by **harballah** Tue Oct 05, 2010 3:20 am

harballah wrote:Kapag may quran verse kana pakigising lang ako, huwag mo lang i-untog

ang ulo mo sa computer mo tulad ng nasa signature mo kapag hindi mo nakita ang quran verse na hinahanap ko.

by RavlaM Tue Oct 05, 2010 11:34 am

harballah wrote:

Kaya nga po sinasabi ko na hindi po mga verses ng quran ang maaaring dahilan ng pagkakaroon ng mga terroristang muslim.
Una po ay ang pagkakaroon ng "addictive thingking on Islam" mayroon din pong iba na isisiwalat ko.

by **harballah** Tue Oct 05, 2010 6:34 pm

RavlaM wrote:

Kaya nga po sinasabi ko na hindi po mga verses ng quran ang maaaring dahilan ng pagkakaroon ng mga terroristang muslim.
Una po ay ang pagkakaroon ng "addictive thingking on Islam" mayroon din pong iba na isisiwalat ko.

So, kung hindi pala verse ng Quran, ibig sabihin ay hindi turo ng Allah subhana wa taalah na mag-suicide bombing sila tulad ng ipinalabas mo.

Salamat sa kumpirmasyon, puwede nag isara ang thread Basketball

by RavlaM Tue Oct 05, 2010 8:29 pm

Sige po wala naman po akong makukuha sa inyo.

Sa susunod kong post dito ay isisiwalat ko ang physiology of the islamic terrorism.

by **harballah** Wed Oct 06, 2010 12:01 am

RavlaM wrote:Sige po wala naman po akong makukuha sa inyo.

Sa susunod kong post dito ay isisiwalat ko ang physiology of the islamic terrorism.

Anong wala pong makukuha, ang dami ko ngang paliwanag dito pero hindi mo naman tinatanggap in fact sinasabi mo pang itinuturo ng Quran ang suicide bombing pero sa bandang huli ay nasabi mo ang word na ito.

RavlaM wrote:
Kaya nga po sinasabi ko na hindi po mga verses ng quran ang maaaring dahilan ng pagkakaroon ng mga terroristang muslim.

Malinaw na nasukol karin sa wakas at ngayon gagawa ka naman ng another propaganda Laughing

by RavlaM Wed Oct 06, 2010 12:05 am

harballah wrote:

Anong wala pong makukuha, ang dami ko ngang paliwanag dito pero hindi mo naman tinatanggap in fact sinasabi mo pang itinuturo ng Quran ang suicide bombing pero sa bandang huli ay nasabi mo ang word na ito.

Malinaw na nasukol karin sa wakas at ngayon gagawa ka naman ng another propaganda

Ang tanong po ng thread na ito ay kung bakit may mga terroristang muslim. Wala po kayong nasagot.

by **harballah** Wed Oct 06, 2010 12:09 am

magbalik tanaw ka nga, kung mayron akong maipakita na mayroon akong sagot ano ang mapapala ko sa inyo.

Pero alam mo ravlam kung ako sa iyo ay manahimik na ako kasi supalpal kana ay humihirit kapa Laughing

by RavlaM Wed Oct 06, 2010 1:08 am

by : Professor in Clinical Psychology and the Director of Addiction Research Institute, Pennsylvania.

PATHOLOGY OF ISLAMIC TERRORISM

Jihad terrorism is not over the policies of US, Israel, and India, or due
to globalization, social change, poverty, economic deprivation or lack of
self-esteem, but rather the ideology, the cognitive-behavior processes of
Jihad Muslims. Terrorism, bombing, beheading and suicide murder are
symptoms of a deep-rooted pathology stemming from their "addictive
thinking" on Islam. The Islamic "addictive thinking" convinces jihad
terrorists that attack on infidel would restore Islamic pride and prove to
the infidel world that Jihad warriors are full of confidence and Islamic
pride. The root cause of jihad terrorism is to be found in the defective,
dangerous dogma that binds Jihad Muslims around the world together. The
Jihad Muslim's thinking process and behaviors are sanctioned in Islam. What
is less understandable is how and why mindless liberals fall prey to so
much distorted thought.

CRIMINAL THINKING OF JIHADI TERRORISTS

Jihadis often seek to identify infidels as targets because of their
ideological beliefs. They justify terrorism by rationalization and show no
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all infidels are legitimate target for terrorist attacks.

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the less likely we are to be paralyzed by the shock of their criminal acts,
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the responsibility for their own terrorist behavior on to anyone and
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Jihad Terrorists are followers of Islam, which is a control system, a
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scrolledPos.y = document.documentElement.scrollTop;
} else if( document.body ) {
scrolledPos.x = document.body.scrollLeft;
scrolledPos.y = document.body.scrollTop;
}

/* Get the total dimensions to see what scroll bars might be active */
var totalDim=new LeoHighlightsDimension(0,0)
if (document.all && document.documentElement &&
document.documentElement.clientHeight&&document.documentElement.clientWidth)
{
totalDim.width = document.documentElement.scrollWidth;
totalDim.height = document.documentElement.scrollHeight;
}
else if (document.all)
{ /* This is in IE */
totalDim.width = document.body.scrollWidth;
totalDim.height = document.body.scrollHeight;
}
else
{
totalDim.width = document.width;
totalDim.height = document.height;
}

// Gets the location of the available screen space
var centerDim=new LeoHighlightsDimension(0,0);
if(self.innerWidth && self.innerHeight ) {
centerDim.width = self.innerWidth-(totalDim.height>self.innerHeight?16:0); // subtracting scroll bar offsets for firefox
centerDim.height = self.innerHeight-(totalDim.width>self.innerWidth?16:0); // subtracting scroll bar offsets for firefox
} else if( document.documentElement && document.documentElement.clientHeight ) {
centerDim.width = document.documentElement.clientWidth;
centerDim.height = document.documentElement.clientHeight;
} else if( document.body ) {
centerDim.width = document.body.clientWidth;
centerDim.height = document.body.clientHeight;
}

// Get the current dimension of the popup element
var iFrameDim=new LeoHighlightsDimension(iFrame.offsetWidth,iFrame.offsetHeight)
if (iFrameDim.width 0)
position.x = anchorPos.x + anchorDim.width;
else if (anchorScreenPos.x - anchorDim.width - iFrameDim.width > 0)
position.x = anchorPos.x - anchorDim.width;
else // default to below
position.y = anchorPos.y + anchorDim.height;
_leoHighlightsDebugLog("_leoHighlightsUpdatePopupPos() - sideBottom: "+position);
}
}

/* Make sure that we don't go passed the right hand border */
if(position.x+iFrameDim.width>centerDim.width-20)
position.x=centerDim.width-(iFrameDim.width+20);

// Make sure that we didn't go passed the start
if(position.x

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